TeXhax Digest Saturday, February 21, 1987 Volume 87 : Issue 12
<TEX>TEXHAX12.87
Editor: Malcolm Brown
Today's Topics:
iptex and \special commands
HEBREW FONT WITH TEX
Need LaTeX command summary
Greek capital Pis
Latex bugs(?) + help please
Point sizes for Computer Modern fonts.
[spqr@uk.ac.soton.cm: ] BibTeX problems
latex style for proceedings
Marginal notes in plain TeX.
NOTE from PEB
"Standardized" font names
Re: NOTE from PEB
rlatex et al, latexfiles
Re: Issue 09
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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 87 20:05:48 PST
From: kurdahi%usc-poisson@usc-cse.usc.edu (Fadi Kurdahi)
To: texhax%score%usc-poisson@usc-cse.usc.edu
Subject: iptex and \special commands
Hi,
Is there a version of iptex that can handle \special commands in latex which
are produced by graphic programs such as tpic ? Any help would be greatly
appreciated.
By the way, I would like to be added to your mailing list, if possible.
Thanks,
Fadi J. Kurdahi
kurdahi@cse.usc.edu
kurdahi@poisson.usc.edu
EE-systems Dept. USC
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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 87 12:19:33 ZONE
To: TEXHAX@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU
From: ASSOUL%FRSAC11.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.edu
Subject: HEBREW FONT WITH TEX
E. ASSOULNE .. PARIS .. FRANCE
IS THERE ANY HEBREW FONT AVAILABLE WITH TEX, DO YOU KNOW
SOMETHING WITH HEBREW HYPHENATION... PLEASE GIVE ALL
INFORMATIONS YOU KNOW.
THANK YOU.
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Date: 12 FEB 87 14:22 GMT
To: TEXHAX@SU-SCORE.ARPA
From: U04Z@CBEBDA3T.BITNET (Igor Metz, Dept. of CS, CH-Bern)
Subject: Need LaTeX command summary
Hi,
Is there anybody out there in TeXland who has a LaTeX command summary
as a LaTeX inputfile?
Igor
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Date: 12 February 1987, 15:28:05 EST
From: "A. Peter Blicher" <BLICHER@ibm.com>
To: texhax@score
Subject: Greek capital Pis
If I am correct in guessing that sbbiovm is a machine running vm, then your
problem may be similar to one we have here: tabs print as capital pis. We
haven't figured out how to fix this, since the problem is some combination
of ascii to ebcdic translation, character tables, and character types, all
of which I have tried to avoid learning about. My solution is to convert
tabs to equivalent spaces. I haven't tried using layout.sty, but you might
see if it has some tabs, or if you are using tabs in your document.
--peter
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 87 16:48:35 GMT
From: trh%ukc.ac.uk@Cs.Ucl.AC.UK
To: texhax@score.stanford.edu
Subject: Latex bugs(?) + help please
Could somebody please identify whether the following are bugs in LaTeX
or just misunderstandings by a naive user:-
We are using Latex version 2.09 (18/12/85) and Tex version 2.0.
In all cases the documentstyle is book. I can e-mail full texts to
anyone who wants them.
1. Labelling chapters causes peculiar behaviour
use \chapter{This is a chapter \label{chap}}
and have at least two pages of text following. There is usually some
error message like `missing control sequence inserted' to start with
carrying on leads to an overful hbox containing a very garbled page
header of the form
CHAPTER1 title \NEWLABEL11\NEWLABEL1.............
Further perserverence leads to the error messages being placed in the
dvi file along with lots of \newlabel constructions.
This all goes away if the \label is removed from the \chapter.
2. Starting an enumeration at something other than one in non-default
format bombs out.
e.g.,
\begin{enumerate}
\setcounter{enumi}{4}
\roman{enumi}
\item junk
\end{enumerate}
produces `Latex error - something's wrong -- perhaps a missing
\item'. Forcing latex to carry on produces a iv label in a mangled
enumeration.
3. Can't change the format of an item tag inside a newtheorem
e.g., use
\newtheorem{exercise}{\small \bf EXERCISE}[chapter]
then
\begin{exercise}
\begin{enumerate}
\roman{enumi}
\item should be a roman tag
\end{enumerate}
\end{exercise}
produces a label 1.
While I'm here can somebody please help with the following problems
a) How do I temporarily switch off the output of figures? I want to
define a newenvironment along the lines of
\newenvironment{codeburst}{ switch off figure output;
output code}
{ switch figure output back on}
I've tried setting totalnumber to zero, textfraction to 1,
topfraction to zero and both topnumber and bottomnumber to
zero all without success.
Setting totalnumber to zero and printing the current setting
returns a null string rather than 0.
b) How can I construct an exercise environment which will allow
me to label and ref particular exercises? I'd be quite happy
to use newtheorem if I could get the text to come out in roman
rather than italic.
Many thanks in advance for any assistance.
Tim Hopkins,
Computing Laboratory,
University of Kent,
Canterbury CT2 7NF
Kent
U.K.
{ trh@ukc.UUCP
trh%ukc@ucl-cs.ARPA
na.hopkins@su-score.ARPA }
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 87 18:06:15 EST
From: Karl Berry <kbb%cs.brown.edu@RELAY.CS.NET>
To: texhax%score.stanford.edu@RELAY.CS.NET
Subject: Point sizes for Computer Modern fonts.
In the last issue of TeXhax, Martin Gelbaum sent in an edited
copy of lfonts.tex, pointing out that LaTeX didn't use some
of the new standard CM fonts, like cmr12. Good point. In fact,
you can do even better than that -- in the last issue of TUGboat,
John Sauter of DEC wrote that he had some new files that
would make Computer Modern fonts at any point size (at the
cost of a run through Metafont, of course). So, ALL the
fonts in lfonts.tex can be done at their true size -- you can
even do fonts that *aren't* in lfonts.tex!
Of course, his interpolations aren't as good as actually hand-specifying
the parameters, but they're a whole lot better than magnifications.
His original scripts were for VMS; I have some equivalent ones
for Unix, and I've sent on the files (and a modified lfonts.tex)
to the Unix TeX site distribution folks, so perhaps they'll start
showing up soon.
If anyone wants the Unix versions of the scripts, I'll send them
out. If anyone wants the VMS versions, you should write to
John directly (and be sure to thank him while you're at it
for doing all the hard work). The electronic address that
worked for me was
sauter%dssdev.dec@decwrl.dec.com (Arpanet).
Karl kbb%cs.brown.edu@cs.net.relay
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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 87 10:57:31 GMT
From: Stephen Page <sdpage%sevax.prg.oxford.ac.uk@Cs.Ucl.AC.UK>
To: texhax@score.stanford.edu
Subject: [spqr@uk.ac.soton.cm: ] BibTeX problems
[Forwarded from a user who has not yet got himself ARPA gateway authorization]
From: <spqr@uk.ac.soton.cm>
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 87 23:07:54 GMT
BibTeX problems:
I have followed the recent correspondence about BibTeX features
with great interest, after spending some months trying to hack
`alpha.bst' to produce an English Harvard-like output. With a lot
of help from (inter alia), the ACM .bst file and Stephen Gildea's
NATSCI .bst file, I have finally got something that a) works and b)
more importantly, I understand. I now have a new problem: I have
references as follows:
J Richards 1978
C Richards 1980
J Richards 1982
The labels generated for the text are Richards 1978, Richards 1980 and
Richards 1982 (dont bother to tell me its not a good idea!), but I
want the references in the order
Richards, C 1980
Richards, J 1980
Richards, J 1982
so all of J's stuff comes togther. The problem is that BibTeX sorts
using the text label as its key. How can I persuade it to sort on
extra fields, without getting those in the text? answers on an
(electronic) postcard to
Sebastian Rahtz, Computer Science, Southampton, UK
Either (uucp) ...!ukc!sot-cm!spqr
or (Bitnet) spqr%sot-cm@uk.ac.ncl.cheviot
or (Bitnet) rahtz@uk.ac.ox.vax1
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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 87 10:34:16 est
From: mroth@afit-ab.ARPA (Mark A. Roth)
To: texhax@score
Subject: latex style for proceedings
I know that I have seen somewhere a document style for LaTeX which
does proceedings format and on the first page leaves the space at the
bottom left for the copyright, copying policy information.
I have looked through all of my previous texhax messages to no avail.
Can anyone point this out to me again?
Thanks,
Mark Roth (mroth@afit)
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Date: Sat, 14 Feb 87 10:47:34 PST
From: <DHOSEK@hmcvax.bitnet>
Reply-To: DHOSEK%HMCVAX.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu
To: TEXHAX@score.stanford.edu
Subject: Marginal notes in plain TeX.
Yes, yes, I know that it is trivial to do mariginal notes in LaTeX... However,
I have a user who would like to have marginal notes in plain TeX. Has anyone
either written the plain tex equivalent of the LaTeX marginal macros or pulled
the necessary code out of the LaTeX format?
G'day
-Don Hosek
<DHOSEK@HMCVAX.BITNET>
or for those who enjoy typing:
<DHOSEK%HMCVAX.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU.ARPA>
``Interpolation with noise removal can be very effective in eliminating random
errors in data.'' -HMC Modelling and plotting manual
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Date: Sat, 14 Feb 87 10:47:54 PST
From: <PEB@dm0mpi11.bitnet>
Reply-To: PEB%DM0MPI11.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu
To: TEXHAX@score.stanford.edu
Subject: NOTE from PEB
Date: 14 February 1987, 14:42:51 GMT
From: Peter Breitenlohner (089) 31893-412 PEB at DM0MPI11
Max-Planck-Institut fuer Physik
(Werner-Heisenberg-Institut)
Foehringer Ring 6
D-8000 Muenchen 40
Subject: more mathematical symbols. Re: Martin Gelbaum in issue 09/87
I think a complete set of uppercase script letters (not just an L for
lagrangian) would be desirable. They are available in many math/phys
journals and look much nicer than the uppercase \cal letters.
In addition `blackboard bold' is often wanted for the standard sets or fields
of numbers (e.g. Z for integers, P for rationals, R for reals, C for
complex, Q or H for quaternions,...). Most of them can, of course be
manufactured in a more or less satisfactory way by overprinting, but it is
not entirely trivial to get them automatically right if they appear
e.g. in subscripts.
Peter Breitenlohner ( PEB@DM0MPI11.BITNET )
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Date: Sat, 14 Feb 87 13:17:57 CST
From: William LeFebvre <phil@rice.edu>
Subject: "Standardized" font names
To: TeXhax@score.stanford.edu
> It has been a tremendous convenience to have all LaTeX fonts
> begin with the letter l, (Computer Modern all start with c, invisible
> fonts all start with i, local Washington adaptations all start with
> w, and Turkish fonts start with t. AMS fonts start with m, except
> for the euler fonts which start with e). The whole thing is
This brings a question to mind. Is there any set prefix for the fonts
that the METAFONT helper program, gftodvi, uses? gftodvi expects the
names "gray" and "black", and it also wants a font named "logo" (for
the METAFONT logo). Seems to me that these names should be changed to
conform to this standardized naming scheme. This, of course, would
require changing gftodvi as well. I would suggest using "m", but that
is already taken. Perhaps "f"?
William LeFebvre
Department of Computer Science
Rice University
<phil@Rice.edu>
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Date: Sun 15 Feb 87 06:06:15-PST
From: TEX Guests <TEXGUESTS@Score.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Re: NOTE from PEB
To: PEB%DM0MPI11.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU
a rather inelegant 'blackboard bold' is contained in font msym10, created
at the american math society. font charts of the two math society "extra
symbol" fonts appeared in tugboat 6#3, page 126. these fonts, along with
cyrillic fonts (described in the same tugboat article) and, i believe, a
fraktur font (designated "euler" and designed by hermann zapf), are now
available in several printer resolutions and magnifications through
\magstep 4 (or perhaps 5 in some cases) on ibm pc-compatible floppy disks.
for more details, write to
american matheamtical society
attn: paul martin
p o box 6248
providence, ri 02940
u.s.a.
-- barbara beeton
(bnb@xx.lcs.mit.edu)
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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 87 12:35:29 CST
From: grunwald@m.cs.uiuc.edu (Dirk Grunwald)
To: texhax@score.stanford.edu
Subject: rlatex et al, latexfiles
Our site has TeX running a subset of the machines, but we have many
home machines which don't run TeX.
I've written a set of programs to allow us ``remote access' to the latex
and tex programs. These are are all running under 4.2, and they've been
running on: Vax 4.2, Vax 4.3, Pryamid 3.x, Encore 2.1, Sun 2.0, Sun 3.0
3b2 running 5.3. You need to have rdist, csh and rsh for the scripts
to work.
+ C program 'latexfile' looks through a .tex files, finds all references to
\input, \include \includeonly \bibliography \blackandwhite \colorslides,
and handles the semantics of \includeonly. It generates, to stdout, a list
of files which the command-line file depends on. If you \include{foo},
it will check to see if it can find foo.tex & foo.aux.
+ Csh program 'rlatex' uses the latexfiles program to determine the
dependencies of your tex files.
It then finds a lightly loaded latex-running host, creates a
copy of your directory in a /tmp file on that machine using 'rdist'.
It maintains information about where it put the directory the last time
it ran latex, and will update the last copy rather than re-copy everything.
For multi-part documents, this saves a lot of RCP traffic.
It then copies back everything from the remote directory that is
newer than your current directory (i.e. new .aux .log .dvi, etc ).
You can also run a sequence of bibtex, tex or latex commands,
as well run things in a 'batchmode'.
I'm not going to offer support for these at the moment, but if others would
like the files & the script, send mail to grunwald@m.cs.uiuc.edu & I'll
send it out.
Dirk Grunwald
Univ. of Illinois
grunwald@m.cs.uiuc.edu
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From: lamport@decwrl.DEC.COM (Leslie Lamport)
Date: 11 Feb 1987 0909-PST (Wednesday)
To: texhax-request@score.stanford.edu
Subject: Re: Issue 09
Re:
the lfonts.tex file ... gets the 12pt fonts by scaling up the 10 pt
ones. The 12pt fonts, cmr12 etc, are never used.
The immediate solution to this problem is to get the current version of
lfonts.tex. This still leaves a long term problem. If TeX is to
remain a viable system, its font selection will have to expand. Once
people get over the thrill of simply being able to typeset technical
material properly, they will demand the range of fonts that the
printing industry takes for granted. (This will probably require that
TeX be able to use PostScript fonts, as mentioned in a previous TeXHaX
note.) I have no intention of producing versions of lfonts.tex for
every new font that comes out. Site coordinators will have to assume
the responsibility of customizing the lfonts.tex file themselves if
they want a version of LaTeX that uses Century Schoolbook fonts. (Note
that with TeX's space limitations, one will probably want a separate
version of LaTeX for Century Schoolbook, rather than a Century
Schoolbook style.)
Leslie Lamport
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