TeXhax Digest Sunday, September 6, 1987 Volume 87 : Issue 73
[SCORE.STANFORD.EDU]<TEX.TEXHAX>TEXHAX73.87
Editor: Malcolm Brown
Today's Topics:
question about BibTeX, AAp standard, etc.
IEEE Transactions format on Tex
LaTeX Notes (Re: TeXhax Digest V87 #71)
Concatenating Token lists: brain damage
IdxTeX
TeX Source
Re: TeX Source
LaTeX question about table environment
program structure diagram macros?
Dynamic creation of TeX Macros.
a request for a CTeX distribution address
LaTeX Notes (Re: TeXhax Digest V87 #72)
Re eth, thorn and yogh (TeXhax Digest V87 #68)
Interline spacing in LaTeX tabular environment (and TeX!)
Invisible fonts for SliTeX
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Date: Sun, 30-AUG-1987 03:13 EST
From: <FOXEA%VTVAX5.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.edu>
To: <texhax@score.stanford.edu>
Subject: question about BibTeX, AAp standard, etc.
I am considering switching over to using BibTeX for bibliographies and
wonder if this would be wise. I would like to have a database where
entries can be added in detailed form, where I can extract from that
for information retrieval purposes, and where I can get bibliographies
produced automatically in ACM, IEEE, CBE, MLA, etc. formats. We have
TeX and LaTeX and BibTeX, but in looking at our files I only saw
the following .bst files: abbrv, alpha, plain, unsrt. The .sty files
were: clbiba, clbibr, opbiba, opbibr.
Can I receive a direct reply to foxea%vtvax3.bitnet@wiscvm.wisc.edu
telling how to get needed files for the various bibliography organiza-
tions listed above, or others that are available. I would also welcome
other comments on how to achieve my objectives.
By the way, we are running TeX and related software on a VAX with
ULTRIX, and plan to move our workload off to Mac II systems that will
run both the Mac operating system and A/UX. We are open to advice
on what software distributions would be best (and least expensive
since we will have more than 25 systems).
Finally, let me ask about tie-ins between TeX and the new AAP
standard (based on SGML) for markup. Does anyone have software
to allow files in the AAP form to be converted to TeX for
printing?
Thanks for your assistance - Ed Fox, Dept. of Computer Science, VPI&SU
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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 87 13:24 EDT
From: <MRB%PSUECL.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: IEEE Transactions format on Tex
To: texhax@score.stanford.edu
X-Original-To: texhax@score.stanford.edu, MRB
Hi ---
I enjoy reading the TexHAX digest, although some of it is a little beyond my
level of comprehension right now.
I wonder if a kind reader or tow could help me with my problem:
I have a journal article all written up for the IEEE Transactions on
Broadcasting. It is in Tex and formats/prints very nicely. Unfortunately,
the journal style is "double-columns", and I don't know how to get Tex
to do this without a LOT of experimenting.
Is there a set of Tex commands I can put around my article which will
produce the accepted format (or even something close). We can FTP
files....I looked at one server mentioned on the net, but it only
had one file which dealt with BibTEX and the bibliography (IEEETR.BST)
Your help/guidance would be appreciated.
MRB @ PSUECL via BITNET, or most other gateways eventually find their way
here to Penn State
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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 87 16:30:04 PDT
From: Tomas Rokicki <rokicki@rocky.stanford.edu>
To: texhax@score.stanford.edu
Here is an implementation of LIFE in TeX, on a 32 by 32 grid.
Output goes to the screen; if anyone wants to hack it up to
send output to a .dvi file in some pretty format, I would be
interested. It's a true hack, but an interesting One.
To run, simply run TeX over it, and enter the coordinates of
the points, one by one. Enter a -1 for the last x coordinate.
Try, for instance, 15, 16, 16, 15, 16, 16, 17, 16, 17, 15, -1.
% Life in TeX by Tomas Rokicki
\font\a=cmr10 at 11truept
\fontdimen2246\a=0pt
\newcount\p\newcount\q\newcount\x\newcount\y\newcount\t
\newcount\qq\newcount\abase\newcount\bbase\newcount\g
\abase=35\bbase=1158
\p=1
\loop
\ifnum\p<23
\fontdimen\p\a=0sp
\advance\p by1
\repeat
\loop
\read0 to\xcoord
\x=\xcoord
\ifnum\x>-1
\read0 to\ycoord
\y=\ycoord
\multiply\y by 33
\advance\y by\abase
\advance\y by\x
\fontdimen\y\a=5sp
\repeat
\def\yloop{{
\y=0
\def\w{}
\loop
\t=\fontdimen\p\a
\ifnum\t>4
\ifnum\t<8
\qq=\q
\advance\qq by-34
\t=\fontdimen\qq\a\advance\t by2\fontdimen\qq\a=\t sp
\advance\qq by1
\t=\fontdimen\qq\a\advance\t by2\fontdimen\qq\a=\t sp
\advance\qq by1
\t=\fontdimen\qq\a\advance\t by2\fontdimen\qq\a=\t sp
\advance\qq by31
\t=\fontdimen\qq\a\advance\t by2\fontdimen\qq\a=\t sp
\advance\qq by1
\t=\fontdimen\qq\a\advance\t by1\fontdimen\qq\a=\t sp
\advance\qq by1
\t=\fontdimen\qq\a\advance\t by2\fontdimen\qq\a=\t sp
\advance\qq by31
\t=\fontdimen\qq\a\advance\t by2\fontdimen\qq\a=\t sp
\advance\qq by1
\t=\fontdimen\qq\a\advance\t by2\fontdimen\qq\a=\t sp
\advance\qq by1
\t=\fontdimen\qq\a\advance\t by2\fontdimen\qq\a=\t sp
\xdef\w{\w*}
\else
\xdef\w{\w.}
\fi
\else
\xdef\w{\w.}
\fi
\fontdimen\p\a=0sp
\global\advance\p by1
\global\advance\q by1
\advance\y by1
\ifnum\y<32\repeat
\immediate\write0{|\w|}
}}
\def\dogeneration{{
\global\p=\abase
\global\q=\bbase
\immediate\write0{|--------------------------------| Generation \number\g}
\x=0
\loop
\yloop
\global\advance\p by1
\global\advance\q by1
\advance\x by1
\ifnum\x<32\repeat
\t=\abase
\global\abase=\bbase
\global\bbase=\t
}}
\loop
\global\advance\g by1
\dogeneration
\iftrue\repeat
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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 87 09:42:45 pdt
From: lamport@src.DEC.COM (Leslie Lamport)
To: TeXhax@Score.Stanford.edu
Subject: LaTeX Notes (Re: TeXhax Digest V87 #71)
Ramin Samadani writes
I have some full page figures in my thesis (LaTeX suthesis) that I
would like to have some control over. Specifically, I would like to
have some of the figures be right hand pages.
A feature to allow one to specify the parity of the page on which a
floating figure should appear would require a considerable amount of
hacking in LaTeX's output routine--definitely not recommended.
Instead, simply position the figures "by hand" by moving the figure
environment in the text. While something of a pain, the effort
involved is miniscule compared to that of writing the
document--assuming that you don't worry about figure placement until
you've finished writing. (On the other hand, worrying about formatting
while you're writing can double the length of time needed to produce a
document.) Putting \typeout messages in the figures may allow you to do
some correction of figure placement without having to print the output.
Also, I would like to be able to have the back side of the page with
the figure be blank. Is there any way to do this?
If one full-page floating figures come right after another, the two
figures should appear on consecutive pages. So, following the figure
with \begin{figure}[f]\vspace*{\textheight}\end{figure} should produce
the desired blank page.
Leslie Lamport
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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 87 14:35:46 EDT
From: oravax!norman@cu-arpa.cs.cornell.edu (Norman Ramsey)
To: cornell!TeXhax@score.stanford.edu
Subject: Concatenating Token lists: brain damage
LAst week I sent in a queston asking how to concatenate the tokens in
\toks variables \s and \t and assign the result to \r. Somehow I overlooked
the obvious:
\edef\temp{\the\s\the\t}
\r=\expandafter{\temp}
Norman
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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 87 14:36:52 EDT
From: oravax!norman@cu-arpa.cs.cornell.edu (Norman Ramsey)
To: cornell!TeXhax@score.stanford.edu
Subject: IdxTeX
Has anybody starting porting this to UNIX yet? I am thinking of getting the
VMS source and writing a version in CWEB, but I don't especially want to
duplicate somebody else's effort.
Norman
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Date: 2 Sep 87 09:49 EST
From: HALLETT JEFFREY A <HALLETT@ge-crd.arpa>
Subject: TeX Source
To: texhax@score.stanford.edu
Hello, TeXHaX'ers!
I have an interesting problem. I would like to port some TeX to the
Mac. I would like to use it there, but find the commerical systems to
expensive. If I could just get the TeX processor working to convert a
text file -> dvi file, that would be good. I need to know the following:
1. Where can I get the C source to TeX?
2. What do I need in addition to #1 to run LaTeX?
3. Where can I find the information necessary to create a driver (future
enhancement)?
4. Any other helpful odds and ends that I might need.
To avoid glomming this group, I would appreciate mail sent to me:
hallett@ge-crd.arpa, hallett@desdemona.uucp
Thanks so much.
Jeffrey Hallett
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Mail-From: BEETON created at 2-Sep-87 07:32:11
Date: Wed 2 Sep 87 07:32:11-PDT
From: Barbara Beeton <BEETON@Score.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Re: TeX Source
(i'm posting this message to texhax as well as to the inquirer because
it seems that some users and hackers are unaware of the "rules" of the
tex game.)
when don knuth put tex into the public domain, he also provided a
system of supporting software (web) and an extensive test procedure to
ensure that a program called tex would in fact do what is described in
the texbook. all distributors of tex, whether academic or commercial,
have taken pains to assure that their implementation passes the trip
test, and is thus eligible to be referred to as tex; more recently, new
implementors have obtained formal permission to use the name from the
american math society, to whom knuth assigned the tex logo as a trademark,
for this very purpose.
web is based on pascal, and some implementors have found that c
is more suitable than pascal in their particular environments; this has
not eliminated the requirement that the resulting program pass the trip
test. i know of no public-domain c implementation that passes the trip
test yet (the several commercial versions do pass, and there is one
public domain version that is close, but until i can verify its status,
i won't identify it). conversion of a program of this size and complexity
is non-trivial. this is not meant to discourage anyone who wants to
undertake the task, only to request that knuth's wishes be recognized
and adhered to.
regarding documentation necessary for implementing tex output
drivers, the formats of .dvi, .tfm, .gf and .pk files have all been
published in tugboat (all but .pk are described in volumes b and d
of computers & typesetting -- tex: and metafont: the program); see
vol 7#1, p 17 for a list of references.
barbara beeton
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Date: Wed, 2 Sep 87 11:10:15 EDT
From: akk2@tut.cc.rochester.edu (Atul Kacker)
To: texhax@score.stanford.edu
Subject: LaTeX question about table environment
I am trying to use \vfill within the LaTeX table environment
without much success. What I want to be able to do is to move
the caption down to the bottom of the page using the rubber
length \vfill. LaTeX seems to ignore the \vfill command. Am I
missing something ? Is there another way of doing the same thing ?
My LaTeX file looks something like this :
\documentstyle[12pt]{report}
\begin{document}
\begin{table}[p]
\centerline{This is where the actual table will go}
\vfill
\caption[Test table]{This is the caption for the test table. It will contain
a description of the salient features of the table}
\end{table}
\end{document}
The \vfill command doesn't do anything. The caption stays 10pt below
the table (or in this case the \centerline stuff). REPORT.STY defines
a vskip of 10pt in its definition of @makecaption and I couldn't
figure out how to change it to a rubber length. I also tried putting
\caption in a \parbox but that did the same thing.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
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Atul Kacker ...{seismo,topaz,nike}!rochester!ur-tut!akk2
OR akk2@tut.cc.rochester.edu
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From: RCOPROB%HDETUD1.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 87 19:51:30 MET
To: TEXHAX@score.stanford.edu
Subject: program structure diagram macros?
Is there a package of TeX macros available to do program structure diagram?
I want to document a program logic manual with PSDs without having to cut and
paste with other software output. I would LIKE to specify the control
structure in a language similar to pascal (or any higher level language) and
have the macro set create a figure for me.
Is there a package that offers what pic does in unix, i.e. specifying
picture elements on a higher level?
Rob van Hoboken +31 15 78-3813 RCOPROB at HDETUD1
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Date: Wed, 2 Sep 87 13:25 CDT
From: <KDM2520%TAMSIGMA.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> (MURALI KRISHNAMURTHI)
Subject: Dynamic creation of TeX Macros.
To: texhax@score.stanford.edu
Howdy! I'm new to the TeXhax list. If someone on the list could help me
with the following problem I have, I sure will appreciate it very much.
In my TeX document, I would like to create macros dynamically as follows
and have the following text use them immediately.
\def\mahmacro#1#2{ \def \#1 {#2} }
The above macro, as y'all know obviously doesn't work.
But I would like to use something like the above macro as follows:
\mahmacro{cowboys}{1} \cowboys (which will give me an 1)
\mahmacro(niners}{9} \niners (which will give me a 9)
Thank you. Murali Krishnamurthi - KDM2520@TAMSIGMA (on the BITNET)
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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 87 10:53:48 +0200
From: Peter Verbeke <FGCBA10%BLEKUL11.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: a request for a CTeX distribution address
To: texhax <TEXHAX@score.stanford.edu>
As a very novice TeX user I am still looking for version
of TeX on my computer (my only experience is on a guest system).
I have an offical distribution tape of TeX, but the problem is
that out pascal compiler fails to eat the web output on many places.
Lately I heard of a C version of TeX but no distribution address.
If anyone of you ever heard wispering of such a beast send some mail
thanks,
peter verbeke : fgcba10@blekul11.bitnet
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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 87 09:45:35 pdt
From: lamport@src.DEC.COM (Leslie Lamport)
To: TeXhax@Score.Stanford.edu
Subject: LaTeX Notes (Re: TeXhax Digest V87 #72)
James Alexander, in describing a solution to a problem he posed,
asserts
LaTeX's \parbox and minipage require an explicit width.
While literally true, it is worth noting the following from page 100
of the manual:
if a minipage environment consists of nothing but a tabbing
environment, then TeX will set the width of the parbox to be
either the width specified by the minipage environment's argument
or the actual width of the longest line, choosing whichever is
smaller.
G|ran Uddeborg writes:
The LaTeX "\newcommand" has an option to let the new command have
normal arguments. But, as far as I can see in the manual, there is no
way to let it have optional arguments. Is there any way to do this,
without being proficient in raw TeX?
No. However, the LaTeX internal command \@ifnextchar makes it easy to
define a command with optional arguments if you're moderately
proficient in raw TeX. Just look in latex.tex for the definition of any
command with an optional argument.
He also wants a command that will do ordinary linebreaking on a
paragraph and then put a string at the beginning of each line. The
lack of any simple way to do this represents a fundamental deficiency
in TeX. The easiest way to hack it (in raw TeX, of course) is probably
to typeset the paragraph in a \vbox, divide its height by \baselineskip
to figure out how many lines of text there are, and put the
beginning-of-line strings in another \vbox that gets put next to
the first. This only works if there are no extra-tall lines and
does not allow the paragraph to be split across pages.
Leslie Lamport
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Date: Fri, 04 Sep 87 00:29:03 BST
From: JCB7%PHX.CAM.AC.UK@forsythe.stanford.edu
To: TEXHAX@score.stanford.edu
Subject: Re eth, thorn and yogh (TeXhax Digest V87 #68)
I have preliminary versions of these letters for Computer Modern.
They are rather hastily cobbled together from bits of real CM letters,
so are not very robust at present; in particular my yogh is not yet very
happy on lowres devices, though I hope to fix that soon. They look OK
(to me!) in roman, italic, bold and sans-serif at 300 dpi, which is
the highest resolution available to me.
If you want to use them until something better comes along, mail me.
Julian Bradfield.
JANET: JCB7@UK.AC.CAM.PHX
EARN/Bitnet: JCB7@PHX.CAM.AC.UK
Letter: c/o Christ's College, CAMBRIDGE, U.K., CB2 3BU
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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 87 14:57 N
From: <CBTS8001%IRUCCVAX.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Interline spacing in LaTeX tabular environment (and TeX!)
To: TEXHAX@score.stanford.edu
LAV@BRANDEIS.BITNET asked about interline spacing in LaTeX tabular env:
You are not alone! Plain TeX does this when there are no descenders in a
line (or no ascenders in the line below: if both are true it looks real
bad). The problem is in TeX's handling of character heights: where they
have no beard (the bit of a piece of metal type below the character), it
assumes the character is finished. Don't know how to fix it, but I guess
tricking around with \strut and \everycr would probably handle it, ie
putting a strut in every line.
Peter Flynn
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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 87 11:31:30 CDT
To: <texhax@score.stanford.edu>
From: "John Hauck" <GG.JPH%ISUMVS.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.edu>
Subject: Invisible fonts for SliTeX
I'm trying to get SliTeX running. Can anyone tell me how to generate
the "invisible" fonts required for doing overlays? Also, what are the proper
CM fonts to use? Our version came with AM fonts referenced in the code.
Thanks in advance.
John Hauck
Systems prog./analyst
Iowa State Univ. Computation Center
gg.jph@isumvs
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