TeXhax Digest Wednesday, November 11, 1987 Volume 87 : Issue 92
[SCORE.STANFORD.EDU]<TEX.TEXHAX>TEXHAX92.87
This weeks Editor: Malcolm Brown
Today's Topics:
Aston Archive and Beebe files
different problems with VMS-TeX and LN03's
Multipage tables in LaTeX
a chemical TeXnical problem
Response to \include questions
Landscape mode in tables (plain TeX)
dvi driver for Kyocera F2200 laser printer
fonts, more fonts
Low Res Fonts for Previewing
Q: How to get TeX or LaTex??
Lunisolar calendar generator for LaTeX
Re: TeXhax Digest V87 #87
Want IBM graphic char font
LaTeX Notes (Re: TeXhax Digest V87 #89)
AMS fonts
Truncated posting--here it is again
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3-Nov-87 00:45:37-PST,1587;000000000000
Date: 3-NOV-1987 08:47:27
From: ABBOTTP%ASTON.AC.UK@forsythe.stanford.edu
Subject: Aston Archive and Beebe files
A number of users are still trying to access the files under the
directories BEEBE and BEEBEDOC.
The DVI family of drivers software is now stored under (and has been for
some time) public.texdvi208. I have been notified that version 2.10 is
being shipped and this will be made available under public.texdv210. The
index for version 2.08 is
aston.kirk::[public.texdvi208]000index.list
It includes update number 14.
Please note that there is no longer the fetch.list files. If you want to
know the latest state of the archive the file is
aston.kirk::[public]000aston.readme
Peter
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From: BEN%vmsa.technion.ac.il@forsythe.stanford.edu
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 87 12:55:30 O
Subject: different problems with VMS-TeX and LN03's
We are having a variety of small annoying problems here.
The first should be addressed to Ed Bell at UKANVAX, or any others who are
VERY familiar with DVI2LN3:
1) Is there a reason that DVI2LN3 is outputting a blank sheet of paper
before and after a print job? If it is to be certain of a clean sheet. (???
) It is definnitely superflous. If there is a problem in the printer setup,
somebody please enlighten me as to the proper setup.
2) Every once in a while, we have a problem of not all of the requested
fonts being printed. I have traced this down to the point that the culprit
seems to be that the down-loaded fonts to the LN03 are not being erased
between print-jobs. Has any one else seen and/or solved this problem? Is
there another change to DVI2LN3 that can be done to insert a DECDTFF after
a print job?
3) This should go to Leslie Lamport, so if if you are reading, please
answer. Is there a nice 'easy' way to change the format of the printed
references in BIBTeX? Currently it is possible to print numbers: [2], or
abbreviations: [slo-go]. We would like to be able to print superscripts and
subscripts for these. As an axample, a superscripted number for a reference
, and a subscripted number for a footnote.
Thanks,
Ben Pashkoff
BEN@VMSA.TECH.AC.IL
VMS coordinator
Computer Center
Technion
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Date: Tue, 3 Nov 87 10:09:32 EST
From: Charlie Martin <crm@cs.duke.edu>
Subject: Multipage tables in LaTeX
Has anyone extended the tabular environment so it works across page
boundaries?
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Date: Tue, 03 Nov 87 16:03:42 +0100
From: Peter Verbeke <FGCBA10%BLEKUL11.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: a chemical TeXnical problem
Hi guys,
I think this a difficult one. Here at the chemical departement
we use several word-processors with capabilities to show (on the screen)
and print nasty chemical formulas. I suppose somthing of the kind must
be possible with TeX and or LaTeX. So what I am realy asking is, do
there exist fonts and or macro packages to do some chemical writing.
I would be suprised if there weren't since TeX has very good math
capabilities.
Thanks,
peter verbeke fgcba10@blekul11.bitnet
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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 87 11:06:11 est
From: beser_nd@scovcb.ge.com
Subject: Response to \include questions
I would like to thank everyone who responded to my question concerning
getting a new page for every include file. Of the three replies, two
contained an identical solution. I'm not sure if Eric Berg from Stanford
University or Dirk Grunwald from University of Illinois sent copies of their
replies to TeXHax, so I am enclosing Eric's message.
>From: RTPUX1::"MCNC!MCNC!GSB-WHY.STANFORD.EDU!A.ERIC" 1-NOV-1987 15:31
>To: mcnc!beser_nd%scovcb.ge.com
>Subj:
>
>You can use the "\input" command instead of the "\include" command, since
>text which is "\input" rather than "\include"d does not have to start a
>new page. However, you lose the ability to print parts of the document
>selectively; there is no "\inputonly" analog to the "\includeonly"
>command. (Details are on page 75-76, as mentioned in the original
>posting.)
>
Leslie Lamport must have misunderstood my question, since the answer was to
use the \input command. My question did not intend to criticize the
\include capability of LaTeX. He is correct about not worrying about page
layout during writing. That is the reason my editor (person not program)
manages the page style. However, there are some valid reasons for breaking
up a large document into sections that do not start at the begining of a page.
For example a large proposal is usually broken into smaller sections where
input comes from different people, and at different times. My reason had less
to do with style, and more with speed. My Editor (program not person) on the
IBM-PC takes several minutes to close a large file, and a few seconds to
close a small file.
Dr. Nicholas Beser
GE Company, Astro-Space Division
USENET: MCNC!BESER_ND%SCOVCB.GE.COM
ARPANET: BESER_ND@SCOVCB.GE.COM
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Date: Tue, 3 Nov 87 11:52:58 EST
From: "Gideon B. Sheps" <career%gpu.utcs.toronto.edu@RELAY.CS.NET>
Subject: Landscape mode in tables (plain TeX)
Can I set a just a few lines in landscape mode in the middle of a document?
Specifically, what I need to do is set the column headings on a table
in landscape mode because their minimum width is a lot longer than I have
room for. I have 1 col of Row labels, followed by 8 columns of mumbers
each (column) with a header that is minimum 8-10 characters accross; for
a total of about 90 characters of type accross the top of my table
If I can do this AND have it lined up with the columns automatically - rapture!
Anyone ? Thanks.
The University has a stake in any opinions I come up with while using their
resources, as usual.
University of Toronto Career Centre Research Office
Koffler Student Services Centre Gideon Sheps
214 College st. W. 416/ 978-2081
Toronto, Ontario, Canada M5T 2Z9
career@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu career@utorgpu.bitnet
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Date: Wed, 4 Nov 87 12:28 N
From: <VOGT%HGRRUG5.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: dvi driver for Kyocera F2200 laser printer
Is there anyone (maybe Mr. Nelson Beebe, but I lost his address)
who can supply me with a dvi-driver running under VMS
for a Kyocera F2200 laserprinter?
I know of an excellent driver under UNIX, I don't know if it has
been ported to VMS yet
F2200 is a 300 dpi laserprinter with capabilities of emulating
IBM-graphics printer, DiabQume and NEC daisywheel printers,
Epson FX80 printer and HPLaserjet. Not all function of the printers
are emulated. F2200 also has an own language, called prescribe.
F2200 has a large font-memory for downloaded fonts.
Thanks in advance
Herman F. Vogt
University of Groningen
Computing Centre
Earn/Bitnet: VOGT@HGRRUG5
Phone: +31-50-633440 ext 3399
Snail-mail: Rekencentrum Universiteit Groningen
Postbus 800
NL-9700 AV GRONINGEN
THE NETHERLANDS
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From: DLATEX%UCBCMSA.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 87 08:31 PST
Subject: fonts, more fonts
Hello TeX enthusiasts,
I am writing today on behalf of a friend, Keith Whiteland of University
of Stirling Scotland, who has some questions about fonts. Spefically,
he has need of the following fonts: hebrew, ugaritic, akkadian,
medieval english, and phonetics. Anyone out there know of a source out
there. Anyone know how to get a current list of Georgia Tobins METAFOUNDRY
fonts? I would like to maintain a list of these fonts if anybody sends
me responses, and in the future, when we have need, I could send off
something to TUG about the list of available fonts in the TeX community.
Thanks in advance.
Doug Henderson
(415) 642-9485
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Date: Wed, 4 Nov 87 08:59:18 EST
From: beck@svax.cs.cornell.edu (Micah Beck)
Subject: Low Res Fonts for Previewing
At Cornell, we have been using the Xdvi program which came on with X
Version 10 for previewing on Suns. We like to see the whole page at once,
and we find that by using fonts created at 85 PBI we can just fit the
length of a page onto the Sun screen. However, the fonts don't look great.
We found that we could get better detail by using 170 BPI fonts, and setting
the xdvi "shrink" parameter to 2. I never could quite understand why this
is so; do you? We don't use this solution because the shrinking algorithm
seems to get confused and put lines on the page where they don't belong.
Now, assuming that we are going to continue using 85 BPI fonts, I've heard
that there's a fix to CM font lowres italics. What's the best way to get
that fix?
Does anyone know the fate of Xdvi under X Version 11? It's a nice, simple,
fast previewer which we'd like to continue using.
If anyone is using a different set of tools and fonts to achieve a similar
result, I'd be very interested in hearing about it. We just put our
environment together by trial and error.
Micah Beck
beck@svax.cs.cornell.edu
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Date: Wed, 4 Nov 87 17:08:22 PST
From: gruber.pa@Xerox.COM
Subject: Q: How to get TeX or LaTex??
Hi. I am *hoping* to get a version of Tex or LaTex running on our Vax
here at Xerox PARC (which is called parcvax), and possibly also a
version running on one of our Suns. The problem: I don't know anything
about how to do this, i.e. where do I go for sources or even a binary,
how do I install it, etc.. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
-- Bob Gruber
Gruber.PA@Xerox.Com
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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 87 09:45:56 EST
From: ramsdell%linus@mitre-bedford.ARPA
Subject: Lunisolar calendar generator for LaTeX
Here is a program that prints the current phase of the moon. It also
generates the LaTeX commands that produce lunisolar calendars. It is
a handy program for astronomers and sailors, as a lunisolar calendar
tells when the moon will be bright.
John
%%% John's program is too long for digest distribution. It is stored
%%% for FTP at
%%% [SCORE.STANFORD.EDU]<TEX.TEXHAX>RAMSDELL.TXH
%%% A copy has also been forwarded to TEX-L for BITNET access. Malcolm
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Date: 05. November 1987, 15:35:52 (CET)
From: XITIJSCH%DDATHD21.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu (Joachim Schrod, THD, W.Germany)
Subject: Re: TeXhax Digest V87 #87
In TeXhax #87 Boylan writes:
> I am using latex for my dissertation, and wrote a number of
> macros designed to typeset tables. However, I keep getting
> the message 'Can't use # in restricted horizontal mode', making
> it impossible to do tables with macros. All the ways I
> try to work around it suffer the same fate. The minimal code
> to produce the error is actually
>
> \newcommand{\md}{1}{\mbox{#1}}
>
> which doesn't involve tables at all.
Well, when all else fail, read the LaTeX book...
The definition should read
\newcommand{\md}[1]{\mbox{#1}}
You have defined a macro \md with the expansion 1, afterwards
starts a group with \mbox{#1} where the # character is illegal.
Phil writes about a fontname interaction with \bigl.
> \font\big = cmr10 scaled \magstep5
> $\bigl(x-s(x)\bigr)\bigl(y-s(y)\bigr)$
> \end
>
> yields (Kellerman & Smith implementation) :-
>
> ! Missing , inserted.
> <to be read again>
> \big
> l.2 $\bigl
> (x-s(x)\bigr)\bigl(y-s(y)\bigr)$
> ? x
I don't know if the network has mapped a left brace to a comma,
but there should stand a left brace in the error message.
The definition of \bigl is \mathopen\big.
This definition is not shown because it is already processed
at this time, only the token \big is put back in the input
``<to be read again>.'' TeX waits for a delimiter after
\mathopen. So - no TeX error.
Joachim
TH Darmstadt
Institut f\"ur Theoretische Informatik
Joachim Schrod
Alexanderstr. 24
D-6100 Darmstadt
West Germany
Bitnet: XITIJSCH@DDATHD21
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Date: Thu 5 Nov 87 11:52:17-PST
From: Ted Shapin <BEC.SHAPIN@ECLA.USC.EDU>
Subject: Want IBM graphic char font
Does anyone have a font that has IBM graphic chars (codes above 127)?
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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 87 12:17:44 pst
From: lamport@src.dec.com (Leslie Lamport)
Subject: LaTeX Notes (Re: TeXhax Digest V87 #89)
Jeffrey Mark Siskind writes
I have noticed a bug in LaTeX. When I have run it
enough times so that labels and references have
converged and then I delete a page, the next time
I run LaTeX the table of contents (and possibly
other references) is off but I don't get the
appropriate warning from LaTeX. I don't know
if this is repeatable so if you can't duplicate it
let me know and I will try again and send you the
files.
The message
LaTeX Warning: Label(s) may have changed. Rerun to get cross-references right.
explicitly asserts that labels may have changed--that is, the values
produced by a \ref or \pageref may have changed. The presence or
absence of this message implies nothing about whether or not the table
of contents (or list of figures, etc.) is correct.
Charlie Martin writes:
If anyone has gone to the trouble of defining an algorithm environment
for LaTeX I'd like to hear about it before I go reinventing the famous
rounded object of locomotion.
I have never bothered to do this for three reasons:
* Everyone has their own preferred pretty-printing style.
* Each language construct requires several different formatting
styles, which implies different formatting commands. For example,
one might want either
IF b THEN c
ELSE d
or
IF b
THEN c
ELSE d
depending upon the widths of b, c, and d and the initial indentation of
the IF. Even if you have a reasonable algorithm for deciding which
representation to use, I doubt if there's a reasonable way to write a
TeX macro to implement the algorithm automatically.
* I've found the tabbing environment easy enought to use that
such macros wouldn't save me that much time.
A better approach is probably to write a program in some ordinary
language that takes the algorithm as input and produces a LaTeX tabbing
environment. However, if anyone cares to write LaTeX macros to
do the formatting, he should note the following comment in latex.tex
% \@ifatmargin : an \if that is true iff the current line.
% has width zero
Leslie Lamport
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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1987 15:19 EST
From: Jim Walker <N410109%UNIVSCVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: AMS fonts
Has anyone successfully moved the AMS fonts (300dpi version) to a VAX/
VMS system? I tried transmitting them from a PC using Kermit, with
"set file type fixed" selected on the VAX end. The resulting files
were read without complaint by PKtoPX (and the TFM files are read
without complaint by TeX), but they don't print. When I looked at a
pxl file using NEWFFC, the characters were garbled. Help!
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Date: Tue 10 Nov 87 17:54:08-MST
From: "Nelson H.F. Beebe" <Beebe@SCIENCE.UTAH.EDU>
Subject: Truncated posting--here it is again
My DVI posting in the latest TeXHaX got truncated in
midstream. Here is the original. Coule it be reposted in
its entirety, please.
%%% Yes, the entire original follows. My apologies! I blew it. I
%%% meant to cut the truncated version out of texhax91, but I
%%% didn't. So: sorry to all texhax readers, who must have
%%% been puzzled by the sudden end of Nelson's submission in
%%% texhax91, and to Nelson. Malcolm
Version 2.10 of my DVI driver family was released 01-Nov-87.
Users who are on the DVI mailing list have already been sent
Newsletter #14 with details. The most significant changes are
substantial enhancements to the drivers for the HP LaserJet Plus
(and compatibles) and PostScript printers, and the addition of
two experimental drivers for Epson 9-pin printers.
If you read this, and have the driver software, but are not on
the DVI mailing list, please send a request to
BEEBE@Science.Utah.Edu to be added.
We now have a European Bitnet redistribution site at the
University of Heidelburg, a British Janet redistribution site at
Aston University, and are setting up a European DECNET
redistribution site at the University of Padova in Italy. I
expect soon that a Japanese site will be added.
************************************************************
** My request to this net is for someone to offer Bitnet **
** server support for the US and Canada, in order that **
** Bitnet sites can obtain the drivers electronically. **
************************************************************
The master distribution directories, APS:<TEX.*>, at
Science.Utah.Edu provide for Arpanet access, but provide no
access for people on other popular nets. About 3.6Mb of disk
space is required for the approximately 210 files in the
distribution (no binary files are stored). For the convenience
of Unix Arpanet sites, I also maintain a compressed tar file,
which requires another 934Kb of disk space.
VAX VMS sites who wish to obtain a VMS binary distribution may
now do so via ANONYMOUS FTP (password GUEST) to CTRSCI.UTAH.EDU
(Internet 128.110.192.4); a 00README.TXT file in the login
directory gives details.
I am unwilling at this point to deposit the family on one of the
Usenet distributions, such as comp.sources.unix, because of the
large size of the DVI family, its rapid evolution, and the long
delay (sometimes months) between posting and appearance. Also,
there is no central repository, but instead thousands of copies
spread throughout the world, making updating a Herculean task.
Finally, I can report that the troubles a few Arpanet sites have
had in accessing Science.Utah.Edu are due to gateways elsewhere
on the net which have inadequate host table sizes, and apparently
lose addresses with high Internet numbers (ours is 128.110.192.2).
This problem is insoluble for the moment. Arpanet IMP's, which
function as some, but not all, of the gateways, are undergoing
major software upgrades this fall, and we can only hope that the
upgrades will eliminate the connection problems.
If some kind Arpanet site with a low Internet number wishes to
volunteer repository space, I will be happy to use it. Such a
site should preferably support the FTP UPDATE/INSTALL commands
(which Unix FTP's apparently do not), in order that updating of
the distribution can be automated.
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